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Ohio State & the Big 10 are Becoming a Big Joke
Posted by Thomas the Terrible on January 8, 2008
Another championship game, another disappointment for Ohio State and the Big Eleven 10. What makes the SEC so special to its fans and so dominate verses to teams outside the SEC? It’s simple really and to explain it I’ll quote Eleanor Roosevelt “America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed” and that’s what SEC is about speed.
Don’t believe me? Did you watch the game last night? Ohio (we fucking lost 3 national championship games in a row) State know exactly what I’m writing about. LSU spotted them 10 points before rolling off 31 points unanswered. The final score doesn’t indicate just how bad Ohio State was beaten last night. After all Ohio State is 0-9 verses SEC teams in bowls for a good reason.
To make matters worse this bowl season proves that the BCS doesn’t work. Ohio State had no business being there in the title game. Look at the some of the teams they played to get there.
Youngstown State
Akron
Washington
Northwestern
Minnesota
Purdue
Kent State
WTF? The highest rated team they played was a very overrated Purdue team and they were like rated 22. The scary thing is I believe Georgia is actually faster than LSU. The SEC will continue to get stronger while the Big Eleven 10 will continue to get weaker.
Just how weak is the Big Eleven 10? Here’s the final Jeff Sagarintm rankings by conference as an example.
1 SOUTHEASTERN
2 PAC-10
3 BIG 12
4 BIG EAST
5 ATLANTIC COAST
6 BIG TEN
7 MOUNTAIN WEST
8 I-A INDEPENDENTS
9 WESTERN ATHLETIC
10 SOUTHERN
Wait the ACC is ranked higher? Bahahahahaha. That’s mortifying. No wonder Ohio State students decided to try and torch their own town after getting their asses handed to them. One would think another buckeye helmet sticker would make them feel better.
I believe the Georgia president was right when he said this:
“I believe the season is already too long and demands too much of athletes and the universities that serve them,” Adams said at a news conference. “But this year’s experience with the BCS forces me to the conclusion that the current system has lost public confidence and simply does not work.”
No shit. Even though it’s brave of you to state that and send it in a letter, but seriously the fans have been saying that for years. (I had the video from ESPN.com but for some reason it wouldn’t work on this site)
This I proclaim on 1/8/08.
TtT
zigzag said
Check this out: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/sports/ncaafootball
Kyle said
FYI I think you are an idiot because for 1 it was 2 in a row not 3 LMAO (that shows something about you….)
FYI We don’t have control over who Ohio State plays in conference holding a team against his conference is something that can’t be controlled so drop that lame ass excuse.
FYI THE BCS CANT BE CONTROLLED!!! LEARN YOUR FACTS LITTLE MAN!!! DO YOU THINK TEAMS ARE GOING TO LOSE ON PURPOSE? NO SCHOOL WOULD DO THAT!!! INSTEAD OF BLAMING OHIO STATE FOR MAKING THE CHAMP GAME BLAME THAT SHITTY ASS BCS YOU PEOPLE LOVE!!! OHIO STATE DIDN”T MAKE THE CHAMPIONSHIP BECAUSE OF THEM, THEY MADE IT BECAUSE OF THAT SHITTY ASS BCS!!!!
OVERALL: Judging based on conference? Doesn’t work that’s a sunk cost (meaning its out of the teams hands)
Saying Ohio State should stay out of the championship game? Umm if the BCS were controllable you wouldn’t see what goes on in it LMAO.
Don’t judge a team by confernece because thats uncontrollable.
Don’t judge a team by losing the championship game if the BCS puts the wrong team in. Hell if they weren’t suppose to be there its not their fault…. its the BCS’s fault LMAO!
Also you can’t help that the BCS is such a shitty ass system that the top 11 teams above Ohio State lost! Ohio State wouldn’t have made the game if the other teams above them hadn’t lost lol. USC vs Stanford big example.
A lot of the comments against the Buckeyes happen to be uncontrollable.
Only real information you got is the 0 and 9 record and 2 lost championships to SEC teams but even that loss to LSU wasn’t really a shocker because they got in their through about 30 teams being upset. So the 0 and 9 record and 1 lost championship is the only information you got to use!
Thomas the Terrible said
“FYI I think you are an idiot because for 1 it was 2 in a row not 3 LMAO (that shows something about you….)”
Let’s see…the Buckeyes lose to in title game against Florida and then lose another title game to Florida in basketball and then lose to LSU…so yeah that’s three…dumbass.
“FYI THE BCS CANT BE CONTROLLED!!! LEARN YOUR FACTS LITTLE MAN!!! DO YOU THINK TEAMS ARE GOING TO LOSE ON PURPOSE? NO SCHOOL WOULD DO THAT!!! INSTEAD OF BLAMING OHIO STATE FOR MAKING THE CHAMP GAME BLAME THAT SHITTY ASS BCS YOU PEOPLE LOVE!!! OHIO STATE DIDN”T MAKE THE CHAMPIONSHIP BECAUSE OF THEM, THEY MADE IT BECAUSE OF THAT SHITTY ASS BCS!!!!
OVERALL: Judging based on conference? Doesn’t work that’s a sunk cost (meaning its out of the teams hands)”
I judge the team on the weak OUT OF CONFERENCE play and the 0-9 of course
However the fact that Ohio State seems to flop is further proof of what a joke they and the Big 10 are.
So go ahead play those 1-AA schools after all fans such as yourself need those type of victories.
“FYI We don’t have control over who Ohio State plays in conference holding a team against his conference is something that can’t be controlled so drop that lame ass excuse.”
Akron, Washington, Kent State, Youngstown State are in the Big 10? Since when…learn reading comprehension again dumbass. The only two from the Big 10 I mentioned were Minnesota and Northwestern. Not my fault your conference isn’t up to par.
“Only real information you got is the 0 and 9 record and 2 lost championships to SEC teams but even that loss to LSU wasn’t really a shocker because they got in their through about 30 teams being upset. So the 0 and 9 record and 1 lost championship is the only information you got to use!”
Wait first you say it’s only two title games and now say one? Gee…no wonder the whole country thinks a certain category of Ohio State fans are morons…you certainly fit into that category prolifically because everyone in Newark, Ohio can’t be as stupid as you.
PS
The Big Ten is still a joke. (Insert lame AOL acronym here for your benefit dumbass Kyle)
Fight on SC! said
First, let me point out that I’m a diehard USC Trojan fan and not an OSU partisan. However, I, like those in Big 10 country and elsewhere, have been astonished by the hubris of SEC fans, who seemingly cite recent BCS successes as ‘evidence’ that the SEC has always been ‘top dog’. SEC fans argue this point so doggedly that it makes you wonder if they feel the South has anything else to hang its hat on.
Since the current discussion focuses on the SEC and Big 10, I’ll limit my comments mostly to those issues. It’s probably worth mentioning that the Big 10 and SEC have met face-to-face in 6 bowl games the past 2 seasons (the era of SEC ‘dominance’). Their comparative records? 3 wins a piece (Big Ten Wins: 07′ – Wisconsin 17 Arkansas 14, PSU 20 Tennessee 10; ‘08 – Michigan 41 Florida 35). That’s face-to-face competition. You call that dominance? Or does that not count?
As for 1-AA competition, let’s look at who the SEC has slated for the upcoming season:
LSU vs. Appalachian State (*Your beloved champion)
Kentucky vs. Norfolk State
Ole Miss vs. Samford
Arkansas vs. Western Illinois
South Carolina vs. Wofford
Mississippi vs. Southeastern Louisiana
Georgia vs. Georgia Southern (*Isn’t UGA touted as the SEC favorite this year?)
**NOTE: This is just your 1-AA slate.
Should we mention last year’s schedule (e.g. Mississippi State vs. Gardner Webb)
Now I’m sure that some SEC fans will argue “Well, our teams play in the toughest conference. Why not have some cream-puff non-conference foes?” That’s a complete cop-out, because calling yourself the toughest conference and then using in-conference play as the basis for doing so is circular reasoning.
Call it nostalgia or respect for a great football tradition, but I feel compelled to come to Ohio State’s defense (I won’t be saying that come one Saturday in September, however). People forget that Ohio State played Texas on the Longhorns’ home field and beat them decisively during the 2006-2007 season. Moreover, they almost beat the Longhorns’ during their championship season, and by my look ahead at Ohio State’s future schedules, has some pretty stiff non-conference competition (e.g. USC, Oklahoma, Miami-Florida).
Some SEC fans also overlook the significance of what OSU has done the past 2 seasons: they’ve played for the national championship! Nobody else can say that! I find it curious that many SEC fans complain that the BCS is a broken system when, in fact, they’ve been benefactors of that same system in recent years as well (LSU had 2 losses last season, after all). As an SC fan, I’ve heard over and over from LSU fans that they were the “true national champion” in 2004 because they won the BCS championship and “those are the rules we all agreed to.” Well, if that’s your argument, be consistent by not maligning Ohio State for making it to the BCS national championship, since those are the “rules we all agreed to.”
That being said, I’m actually with most fans – including many Buckeye and SEC fans I know – in saying that the BCS is a flawed system in desperate need of repair. I’m hoping that we can ratchet up the pressure so that we can get something resembling a playoff system (perhaps a “Plus 1 system”, with a “Final Four” based on the highest BCS rankings before bowl season).
FINALLY, REGARDING AN ABOVE POINT OF CONTENTION:
“FYI I think you are an idiot because for 1 it was 2 in a row not 3 LMAO (that shows something about you….)” Actually, Kyle (the Buckeye supporter) was on target with this point, because the post to which he was responding talked solely about college FOOTBALL…
College BASKETBALL had not been mentioned, so ‘Thomas the Terrible’ please refrain from bringing issues outside the gridiron to the fore. Also, take a grammar lesson or use a thesaurus before trying to argue your points so ‘eloquintly’ (e.g. “sunk cost” sounds so pedantically acadimic, but what does that actually mean? Moreover, check the definition of “prolifically” (i.e. producing abundantly). You can’t fit something prolifically). That southern education has served you well…
Good luck this season.
Thomas the Terrible said
“I, like those in Big 10 country and elsewhere, have been astonished by the hubris of SEC fans, who seemingly cite recent BCS successes as ‘evidence’ that the SEC has always been ‘top dog’. SEC fans argue this point so doggedly that it makes you wonder if they feel the South has anything else to hang its hat on.”
More BCS Titles any any conference. Or more football titles than any conference period. How about toughest Sagarin rankings for what eight years in a row? Can the Big 10 say that? Or the PAC 10, which is pathetic, say that? Nope? Didn’t think so
“As for 1-AA competition, let’s look at who the SEC has slated for the upcoming season:
LSU vs. Appalachian State (*Your beloved champion)
Kentucky vs. Norfolk State
Ole Miss vs. Samford
Arkansas vs. Western Illinois
South Carolina vs. Wofford
Mississippi vs. Southeastern Louisiana
Georgia vs. Georgia Southern (*Isn’t UGA touted as the SEC favorite this year?)
**NOTE: This is just your 1-AA slate.
Should we mention last year’s schedule (e.g. Mississippi State vs. Gardner Webb)”
I was referring to the fact that Ohio State seems to play a plethora of 1-AA schools in a season. By the way an SEC team didn’t lose to a 1-AA team.
“Now I’m sure that some SEC fans will argue “Well, our teams play in the toughest conference. Why not have some cream-puff non-conference foes?” That’s a complete cop-out, because calling yourself the toughest conference and then using in-conference play as the basis for doing so is circular reasoning.”
Let’s also look at other games that you conveniently overlooked:
Alabama vs. Clemson
Arkansas vs. Texas
Auburn vs. WVU
Florida vs. Miami and F$U
Ga. vs. Arizona State
USC (the one that was a school before CA. was a state) vs. NC State & Clemson
Tennessee vs. UCLA
Vandy vs. Wake Forest
Not to mention that 10 of the 12 SEC teams in the top 20 of toughest schedules and 6 of those were in the top 10 at that. Can the Big 10 say that or the Pussy PAC 10 say that? No? Too bad.
“Some SEC fans also overlook the significance of what OSU has done the past 2 seasons: they’ve played for the national championship! Nobody else can say that! I find it curious that many SEC fans complain that the BCS is a broken system when, in fact, they’ve been benefactors of that same system in recent years as well (LSU had 2 losses last season, after all).”
But did OSU deserve to be there? Nope. And you can also say OSU lost the national championship 2 time in a row…to a SEC team.
Blame Pitt for LSU making the title game or better blame those pansy Trojans for losing to Standford. (snicker)
“Call it nostalgia or respect for a great football tradition, but I feel compelled to come to Ohio State’s defense (I won’t be saying that come one Saturday in September, however). People forget that Ohio State played Texas on the Longhorns’ home field and beat them decisively during the 2006-2007 season. Moreover, they almost beat the Longhorns’ during their championship season, and by my look ahead at Ohio State’s future schedules, has some pretty stiff non-conference competition (e.g. USC, Oklahoma, Miami-Florida).”
I call it the realization that the PAC 10 as a whole is pathetic so you’re jumping on another conference bandwagon. Guess what the SEC has a tough schedule every year, year in year out. Just look at the rankings.
“Actually, Kyle (the Buckeye supporter) was on target with this point, because the post to which he was responding talked solely about college FOOTBALL…”
Actually since I’m the one who the post that jab which is in parentheses, was at the very fact the OSU fail boats did just that, lost three national title game IN A ROW…dip shit…can’t you get that? I mean I did not specifically say 3 national title games in football did I? Go back to sucking his cock.
“Also, take a grammar lesson or use a thesaurus before trying to argue your points so ‘eloquintly’ (e.g. “sunk cost” sounds so pedantically acadimic, but what does that actually mean? Moreover, check the definition of “prolifically” (i.e. producing abundantly). You can’t fit something prolifically). That southern education has served you well…”
First off you misspelled “eloquently” and “academic” you retard and you need to check the meaning of “prolifically” again. I’ll help you out there chief.
http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/PROLIFICALLY
1. In a productive way
– productively, fruitfully, profitably
2. In an abundant manner
– abundantly, copiously, profusely, extravagantly
So yes I did use it correctly and you’re an idiot.
I see your lack of education served you well. Now be a good little boy and practice your spelling and grammar…bitch.
Now go back to living in the 90271…not as good as Ocean Beach.
Mike said
Ohio State does not play a plethora of 1-AA schools. Where is your proof? Yes, they have a 2 game series against Tressel’s old school (Youngstown State), but other than this when have they played 1-AA? Texas home and away, USC home and away, Miami FL home and away and Oklahoma home and away, all within a 10 to 12 year stretch. Show me an SEC team that has the balls to match that. Say what you want about OSU getting waxed in the last 2 championship games, that is fair game, but don’t talk shit about their schedule when they’re one of the few major schools in college football to have a sack large enough to go play a major school.
Look at Texas. Do you think Mack Brown wants Ohio State blowing his team out early in the season again? That is why they just cancelled at Arkansas and have postponed it until 2013. Most of the major schools aren’t willing to lay it all out in a September game. I think USC deserves credit. They are willing to go on the road to good to great programs as well.
Thomas the Terrible said
“Ohio State does not play a plethora of 1-AA schools. Where is your proof?”
You’re correct I should have worded that statement to say Ohio State plays a plethora of schools that should be considered 1-AA.
“Show me an SEC team that has the balls to match that.”
Last year LSU played Va. Tech who finished third in the country
Alabama starts with Clemson and has a home and home game with Oklahoma when the Sooners were in the championship game every year. Bama also played Florida State last year
Tennessee starts with UCLA before that they had a home and home with Cal, they also had a home and home with Miami. Coming up they have a home and home with Oregon and are working on scheduling Nebraska
Georgia plays Arizona State early this year.
Arkansas has already played a home & home schedule with USC
Auburn goes to WVU this year played South Florida last year
Florida plays Miami this year
Miss. State played WVU last year.
South Carolina plays Clemson every year and has a home & home with NC State
So most SEC teams are willing to go on the road and play the tougher schools year in and year out.
“That is why they just cancelled at Arkansas and have postponed it until 2013.”
According to Texas website the game isn’t canceled it’s set to take place on 9/13 this year on ABC of course.
the man said
“Alabama starts with Clemson and has a home and home game with Oklahoma when the Sooners were in the championship game every year. Bama also played Florida State last year”
Florida State was terrible last year.
“Tennessee starts with UCLA before that they had a home and home with Cal, they also had a home and home with Miami. Coming up they have a home and home with Oregon and are working on scheduling Nebraska”
Home and home, home and home, home and home. Go on the road for once or are you too scared. Miami is terrible, and Dennis Dixon is gone so Oregon is no good anymore either.
“Arkansas has already played a home & home schedule with USC.”
Home and Home too scared to go to southern cal. Also they lost both games.
“Auburn goes to WVU this year played South Florida last year”
If I remember Auburn lost to South Florida
“Florida plays Miami this year”
Miami is terrible
“Miss. State played WVU last year.”
And lost to WVU last year
“South Carolina plays Clemson every year and has a home & home with NC State”
Home and home too scared to go on the road. and NC State is terrile
You say that the SEC has the balls to go on the road and play tough teams when all of their non conference “tough” opponents are home and home schedules. Their too afraid too afraid to play these teams on the road.
Moderators Notes: Home & home means one game on the road and one game at road Fucktard. Not my fault your failboat Fuckeyes are 0-9 verses the SEC.
Thomas the Terrible said
“If I remember Auburn lost to South Florida”
True but they beat Florida who stomped your teams ass in the title game.
“You say that the SEC has the balls to go on the road and play tough teams when all of their non conference “tough” opponents are home and home schedules. Their too afraid too afraid to play these teams on the road.”
Are you kidding me? You don’t know what home and home means? Bahahaha what an idiot.
Just think about like this. LSU lost to Arkansas and Kentucky and yet still beat the Buckeyes. Truth hurts doesn’t it?
Terrelle Pryor said
1. You are a Tennessee fan. You should not be talking. When was the last time UT was significant? UT lost to Wyoming, wow, SEC teams must be bad…
Virginia Tech is a joke.
Thomas the Terrible said
By default Tennessee is significant because they play in the SEC. You know the league that has won the past 3 BCS championships.
Virginia Tech might be a joke even though they don’t even play in the SEC so I’m not sure why they are mentioned…but they’re better than say Youngstown State…